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A Firefox week and an iPod day

On Firefox

I've been using the Maxthon browser (formerly myIE) for about a year now.  I tried Firefox 6 months ago but couldn't get it to install.  With all the Firefox buzz with the 1.0 release I tried again and have been flat-out enjoying it.  For full compatibility (like for.Text posting where the FtbHTML editor control icons don't appear in Firefox), I still use Maxthon.  One think I like better in Maxthon is its handling of “Groups,“ where Firefox doesn't have that exactly.  Using IE now is a lot like it was circa 1996 when Netscape reigned, but you wanted to use the Microsoft browser out of a sense of loyalty to the Mothership and waiting for something real to appear out of Redmond in the browser arena.

An iPod in the hands of a Microsoft Developer is a dangerous thing...

I like the joke that when MS bloods like myself try to use a Mac, we don't get it because its too simple to use.  My own experience supports that anyway.  With this sweet little iPod in my hands for the first time today I tried to navigate through the menus and thought the damned thing was broken.  I was clicking on what I thought were obvious icons of the selection wheel and nothing would happen.  Finally, after reading through the manual I was able to “get it,” that is, grasp the elegance of the interface.  You glide your finger over the wheel in a zen-like groove and click only when absolutely necessary.  I was pressing arrow buttons like I wanted to launch a setup.exe.  No.  Its a Mac. 

Another bit of advice for prospective iPod owners is this: beware of the iTunes store!  I mean, I spent 4 bucks in 30 seconds just scanning through a Sarah McLachlan playlist.  Those 99-cent clicks add up to real money pretty quickly.  Realizing the danger, I quickly jumped over to DotNetRocks and downloaded four shows to keep me occupied.

All-in-all, its been a great Firefox week and iPod day.  I started the week with my Windows 2003 box running well enough for me to do real work on it, and at the end of the week after installing Firefox and iPod and rebooting a few times, the darn thing still works. 

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Posted on 11/14/2004 6:53:00 PM by Dave Burke
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11/15/2004 11:02:00 AM Permalink

I've tried Firefox but never really understood the big deal with it...

I've been using SlimBrowser (http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/">http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/)ever since I saw it in TechTV a couple of years ago.  It's build on top of IE (I believe) and it has autologin/groups/tabbed browsing/pop-up/whitelists/blacklists/aliases/etc../etc..

Guess I don't get the Firefox stuff.

Erik |

11/15/2004 11:10:00 AM Permalink

Erik, the big deal (in my opinion) isn't the browser itself (I mean, its just a browser!), but that fact that its a 100% non-Microsoft product.  That sort of thing always fires up the nerd masses.

Internet Explorer IS pretty lame compared to Firefox or to browsers built ontop of the IE engine like SlimBrowser and Mathon, so I guess that's newsworthy, too.  My loyalty to MS isn't necessarily reinforced when they overwhelm the competition as they did in the browser market and then just stop improving it.  I want to work with Microsoft on the front-end, back-end, and middle, but that sort of thing ticks me off.

Thanks for your observations!

Dave Burke |

11/15/2004 2:41:00 PM Permalink

I've been using MyIE2 for a year as well and just re-installed Firefox (after a couple of earlier looks at it) a couple of days ago and I'm overly impressed yet. Like you, I prefer Maxthon's "groups". The one thing FF does have is LOTS and LOTS of add-ons. They, like Apple with the iPod, have managed to create a thriving user community around their product, so it is seen as a platform almost. As we should all know by now, it isn't how good your product is, sometimes, that makes it a success, it is how useful is it to others? While people are bagging IE, they should stop and consider how many users and applications rely on IE.  I think Scoble posted something from the IE team about 6 months ago to this same effect. If you own a product that 100 million people use every day, and hundreds of third-party applications rely upon, you can't just change it willy-nilly. We should cut the guys some slack and thank them for giving us such a good platform/product in the first place.

Cameron Reilly |

11/15/2004 6:42:00 PM Permalink

Good food for thought, Cameron.  I know you meant to say "not" overly impressed with Firefox.  I agree, for sure.  

That's the first time I heard  the "user and application reliance" perspective for IE improvement inactivity.  It sounds completely reasonable on the page, but sounds more like a justification for inaction and a lack of investment to me.

I'll continue to spend most of my time in myIE2 like you and not be too concerned about what browser I'm using.

Thanks again for stopping by.

Dave Burke |

11/17/2004 5:48:00 AM Permalink

Dave, I know it could be seen as an excuse, but check out (if you haven't already seen it), Gary Schare's interview (you can find the link to it from this post of mine today: reilly.typepad.com/.../microsoft_austr.html">reilly.typepad.com/.../microsoft_austr.html). It's an interesting perspective from the Director of Windows Product Management at Microsoft.

Cameron Reilly |


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