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Dude, I am SO not getting a Dell

Dell lost another customer today.  I will never, ever, EVER attempt to order another Dell.  I need to rip this narrative off, cause I already spent two hours of my evening with Dell, and I still need to make another call in the morning.

I need a laptop.  I wanted a Dell laptop, so I picked one in the Dell Outlet in only a few minutes, 2GB RAM, Duo Core, blah-blah, whatever.  I went through the online order process and near the end was prompted for my Company name.  Company name?   Weird, but okay.  Then I clicked on what I thought was the Dell Credit Card image that I opened yesterday to pay the $1600 total.  Submit.

Error.  We cannot process this order.  [Continue Shopping]

Continue Shopping?  Continue SHOPPING???  Like I'm going to try to drop another $1600 bucks here?  No other information, just "Continue Shopping."

So I called Customer Support.  Here's what happened.  Somehow I was in the Business Accounts area of the Dell Outlet.  I thought I was simply in the Dell Outlet looking at laptops, but little did I know that due to some dropdown selection I made I was now shopping within an entity of Dell completely separated from the Home and Home Office entity represented by another dropdown selection.  That produced an error when I selected what I thought was my Dell Credit Card for payment and rewarded me with nothing but an error message and a "Continue Shopping" button.

Dell is broken.  I heard the horror stories about Dell support and incompetent service practices but couldn't believe it.  Now I do.  Here's what transpired the next hour-and-a-half.
 

  • Called Customer Support.  On hold with Bangladesh or wherever.  Woman was congenial.  "Your first and last name?"  "Dave Burke."  "That's D-A-B-E?"  "No, no.  DAVE.  D as in Dog, A as in Animal...."  "And your email address?"  Oh, gawd.  "I'm sorry, this is Home and Home Office Services.  This is a Business Account purchase.  Let me transfer you."

  • Business Account Support.  On hold with Bangladesh or wherever.  Woman was congenial.  "Your first and last name?'  "Dave Burke.  D-A-V-E B-U-R-K-E"  "And your email address?"  "This order is on hold because there was a problem with your Dell Credit Card and this is a Business Account purchase."  "Can't you change it's billing?"  "No, I'm sorry, Sir.  You must talk to Dell Financial Services.  Let me transfer you."  On hold for 10 more minutes, then click.  "If you'd like to make a call, please hang-up and dial the number."  Disconnected.

  • Called Dell Financial Services.  Couldn't place the accent.  Man was congenial. "Your first and last name? .... I'm sorry, Sir, but you have to be transferred to Accounts Verification to authorize your Credit Card."  "But why?  I was approved online yesterday."  "Sir, I'm going to transfer you to Accounts Verification now.  Have a fantastic day and thanks for calling Dell!"

  • Accounts Verification.  "Sir, could you please tell me the addresses of your two previous residences?"  I remembered the last one okay but was fuzzy on the exact address of the house I lived in 12 years ago.  It seemed important but he let me slide.  "What about my order problem???  It's on hold because it's designated as a Business Accounts purchase and I wanted to simply pay it with my Dell Credit Card."  "Oh, that will change over automatically and the hold on your order will be removed immediately upon authorization."  I knew he was blowing smoke up my skirt and that he had no clue how to release the hold on my order.  Well, guess what.  I was right.

  • Called Customer Support.  Again.  On hold with Bangladesh or wherever.  Woman was congenial.  "Your first and last name?"  "Dave Burke.  D-A-V-E B-U-R-K-E"  "And your email address? ... I'm sorry, this is a Business Account purchase.  Let me transfer you."  "Can't you just CHANGE IT???  All I want to do is buy a Dell laptop and charge it to my Dell Credit Card."  "No, I'm sorry, but I have to transfer you to Business Account Services."

  • Business Account Services.  On Hold.  Ankush is now my Support Specialist.  "Ankush, buddy.  Can I PLEASE cancel this order?"  10 minutes of processing later, the order for the laptop is cancelled.  I foolishly think that the nightmare is over, then I remember that the order consisted of a laptop AND a docking station.  Checking back online, I see that the docking station is still In Processing, and On Hold, apparently.

  • So I call Business Account Services.  "Business Account Services hours are between 8:00 AM until 6:00 PM Central Time."  It was after 7:00 PM here.  I started the process of chosing and purchasing a Dell laptop around 5:00.

  • I call Customer Support.  Surely I can cancel this docking station order.  "Your first and last name, please?"  No escape.  "This is a Business Account order, Sir, let me transfer you."  On hold for 5 more minutes.  "Hello, sir?  I just received an automated message saying that Business Account Services is closed for the day."  The same message I received, apparently.  "What are their hours again so I can call them in the morning?"  "Sir, that's the Business Account Services area and I work in the Home Services Accounts area."  Unbelievable.

 
Okay, telling this story was another 45 minutes of my life.  I am so done with Dell.

 

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Posted on 8/31/2006 7:46:00 PM by Dave Burke
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9/1/2006 4:40:59 AM Permalink

Sounds similar to my recent experiences with HP/Compaq.  I think the problem is that these companies used to want to customize orders, since that was what set them apart, but that is no longer true.  Now they are mainstream and their model is about those couple of systems that they somehow believe to be the ones that are going to sell as is.  And if you want something customized, then even though they do support it still, you are now in the minority and they really don't have the support for you. And sadly, there doesn't seem to be any reasonable alternatives.

Paul Wilson |

9/1/2006 4:58:33 AM Permalink

Hey, Paul.  Wonderful to hear from you.  I think you're absolutely right.  I'm sorry to hear you had a similar experience with HP/Compaq.  That was my next stop.  Gateway?  I've been thinking about alternatives and I think you're right about that, too.  Thanks for stopping by.

daveburke |

9/1/2006 6:12:19 AM Permalink

Dave - It's almost comical... I had the exact same experience. I tried to get a new D820 on their 60-day same-as-cash program. Same thing happened, they thought I was a business account. Ends up I got the name of a guy & his direct line who helped me through it. Eventually, I just ignored the first order and told him exactly what I wanted. A few days later, the original order was still being processed but when they couldn't get payment, they called and I just said "yeah, I'm not paying for that, cancel it." so they did... much easier.

Still glad I got my Dell... love it!

AC [MVP MCMS] |

9/1/2006 6:16:54 AM Permalink

AC, Glad you found it comical and could relate.  Thanks for sharing your so very similar experience!  Geez.  Glad it worked out.  I was concerned this would be hanging out there and I'll still see a bill on my stupid Dell Credit Card.  And yeah, maybe I was a little hasty in saying I would never get a Dell.  Like Paul said earlier, there aren't a lot of alternatives.  And they are sweet machines...

daveburke |

9/1/2006 6:45:56 AM Permalink

If I might suggest Toshiba.   I picked up a Toshiba 17" Duo core, 2gig, yada yada at Best Buy in July.  Its nice and fast,  screen is good,  battery life is decent.   And it was less than $1400

Dave Kekish |

9/1/2006 6:55:15 AM Permalink

Thanks, Dave.  I'll certainly give the Toshiba a look.  I never knew Best Buy to carry a laptop with Windows XP Professional though, but I'll check it out.

daveburke |

9/1/2006 7:04:15 AM Permalink

Its actually got Media Center on it (seems to be normal anymore).   Media PC is XP with some fluff, so it didn't bother me.  Course as soon as RC1 for vista is out, I'm going to pave the box.

Only thing that annoyed my about the toshiba is the amount of crapware on the machine.   Oh and the touchpad has extra functionality (ie, upper right corner of the pad, and your current dialog is maximized),  Its easy to get rid of though.

The thing that sold me was it comes with 2GB standard, and unlike the Dells (we have one of those as well),  I could play with it before I decided to buy it.

Dave Kekish |

9/1/2006 7:21:33 AM Permalink

Good advice, Dave.  Thanks.  I'll really need XP Pro for presentations and so forth.  There's a lot of crapware on the Dell machine I was going to buy, too.  6 free months of AOL though.  WOO-HOO!

daveburke |

9/1/2006 10:03:16 AM Permalink

Dave...first time caller..oh wait this is a blog.  Anyways, found you through my friend Dave Kekish and have been a reader for a few months now.

I've dealt with Dell for several years now for both my home and our corporate purchases.  It Telligent uses Dell I would see who their account rep is and try dealing with them.  Typically you can get a discount off list pricing if you are an established business customer of theirs.  Dell offers employee purchases so I would think you could get the D820 you want and have it billed to a Dell account, proving Telligent deals with them.  

I realize your problems started when they classified you as a business purchase, but I am telling you the business support people from Dell are a heck of a lot better then the home market people.

Mike Simmons |

9/1/2006 11:18:53 AM Permalink

Mike,  Welcome!  Welcome!  And that's great advice about going through Telligent.  As soon as I get past the shell-shock of yesterday, I may do just that.  As for Dell's business services support, I actually got a call back from the business support rep today to ask how things were going with the order, so this confirms what you're saying about their business support.  I never meant to say anything negative about the support people.  They were all wonderful, really.  The PROCESS seemed broken.

Hope to see you again, Mike.  Thanks again for the suggestions.

daveburke |

9/2/2006 12:47:37 PM Permalink

Hi,

I have a Dell XPS. I never had such issues with them. I was really overwhelmed by their team and services when I got it. I must say hard luck and wish you better luck next time ;)

Thanks

Rubal Jain

Rubal Jain |

9/2/2006 10:01:45 PM Permalink

Rubal, thanks for sharing your experience and the good wishes.  Yes, the Dell people I worked with on the phone were great (all 10 of them! Smile, they were simply unable to fix what was broken in the sales process.

daveburke |

9/3/2006 2:19:00 PM Permalink

I too purchased a Dell laptop and luckily was able to get it completed online.  I don't like dealing with phone people either.  If you pass on the Dell I've used Toshiba and IBM Thinkpad (or whatever their new name is) and those both are good machines.  Each one has their trade-off's just like anything else.

Please keep us updated on what happens and I hope this ends well.

Erik Lane |

9/3/2006 2:27:42 PM Permalink

I hope to go back to Dell, but I'll need a proxy or someone to hold my hand.  Either that or I'll suck it up and try again.  I will definitely report back when I initiate re-acquisition procedures.  Smile Thanks.

daveburke |

9/4/2006 12:55:18 PM Permalink

Dave, it's really comic Smile I've never ordered a Dell but I've lots of colleagues that has one of them and the customer care is always quite brilliant, maybe it was not your lucky day Smile However, I agree with you: these are the things that permits to a big company to loose a customer.
I've just ordered a new notebook to replace my old (and wonderful) Sony Vaio and (after lots of positive comments and having tried some of them) my choose was for the IBM Thinkpad family: this is the most solid notebook I've ever had, a professional machine where all the internal parts are protected on a solid magnesium case. Lenovo permits you also to configure your machine so... give it a try Smile
P.S. Your first and last name? Smile)

Stefano Demiliani |

9/5/2006 9:34:14 PM Permalink

Hey, Stefano!  Yeah, maybe it was just an unlucky day.  I'm very glad to hear you like your IBM Thinkpad.  I hear they're great machines.  The Thinkpad is my first choice if I don't try to buy another Dell.   Thanks for visiting, Stefano.

daveburke |

9/18/2006 4:03:16 PM Permalink

Dave,
I read up on your blogpost from August 31 and wanted to check in with you. So sorry to hear about your purchasing experience. It looks like you decided to give Dell another chance, but haven't seen any updates.

Have you received your Dell computer yet? My contact information is below. Please contact me directly if I can do anything to help.
Thank you,
Margo
Dell Customer Advocate
E-mail: Customer_Advocate@dell.com

Margo Dell Customer Advocate |

10/15/2006 5:15:09 AM Permalink

Had similar cr*ppy experiences with them. Bought a MacBook instead and couldn't be happier - I can switch to Windows XP if I really want to, but find myself doing it less and less for each week. OS X rocks, it works, and this thing is fast even with Final Cut Pro. I'm thinking about a red iPod nano now... Smile

Jonas |

10/15/2006 5:40:19 AM Permalink

Hi, Jonas!  I had to suck it up and try again and was actually able to successfully order a Dell Latitude, which I now love.  I really would like to sit down with a MacBook though sometime.  Definitely something to consider in the future.  Thanks so much for the comments.

daveburke |


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