Dave Burke : Freelance .NET Web Developer specializing in Online Communities

Local boys make good at VTDotNet User's Group meeting

It was an interesting night at the Vermont .NET User's Group tonight for me in several ways.  First, I got to give a short presentation on Community Server, so those Telligent endorphines are still kicking in hours later. 

Only local boys were behind the podium tonight to engage in Julie Lerman's "Battle of the Portals."  Me with Community Server, Paul Swider on SharePoint Portal Server and Jon Limmer on DotNetNuke.  We even had bonus appearances by Tom Cooley, who tag-teamed with Jon on DotNetNuke, and Rob Hale, who did a "newbie" session on The Observer Pattern.  (Observer Pattern / newbie / Observer Pattern / newbie...mmm.  Vermont obviously has really smart Newbies!  At least that's what I've observed.) 

We also crossed another threshold tonight: the meeting actually went on after Julie Lerman left to head home to bed to get an early start to TechEd at Beantown tomorrow.  Apparently she's booked for one continuous series of geek parties and will need her rest.  But the fact that a Vermont .NET meeting continued without Julie in attendance meant that maybe we were there for the content after all?  Of course, if Julie were to move to Montana or some such place, VTDotNet would fold in about a week, but it's nice to think we could actually do something without her in the center of it, if for only an hour.

Okay, enough of the chit-chat.  Let's get to my Community Server presentation.  My goal was to introduce the folks to Community Server, not dig into the framework, demonstrate skinning or explain the Provider Model like I've done at Code Camps in the past.  I'm seeing that developers don't seem to understand what Community Server DOES or how it could benefit them.  They simply don't get Community Server.  Community Server, for many, simply isn't very approachable.  It's one of my goals to change that. 

As for what Community Server does, I simply went to communityserver.org.  "This is Community Server.  What you see here is what Community Server does."  Early on I shared something Rob Howard said once, that Community Server isn't trying to build the next digg.com; Community Server provides a framework for its users to build the next digg.com.  I think people seemed to get that.

There was also a real interest in the room to understand the role of Open Source in Community Server, considering that it was also a commercial product, and understand what was free and what wasn't.  I think I was able to clarify that for them by covering the Add-ons and various enterprise capabilities of Community Server.  It would have been helpful to touch on the Server Licensing chart, which does a great job distinguishing the various commerical components of Community Server from the free framework source.  But I didn't think of it at the time.

My goal was to take only 30 minutes, though technically I was scheduled to take an hour.  I did go over by 10 minutes, but only to answer questions.  I think we left them with a hunger for more that only a visit to communityserver.org can satisfy.  Come to the table and drink from the sacred cs.org chalice, my Vermont brothers and sisters.

Every presentation (for guys like me who don't do it all of the time) is a valuable learning experience.  In thinking back on tonight's presentation, I am happy with my delivery in that it was not as deliberate and premeditative as I think it's been in the past.  Much better flow.  Nor do I think I was talking too quickly or overly excited about the material.  I felt relaxed and motivated by the simple desire to share my knowledge, experience and passion for Community Server with others in a way they could understand and perhaps share my enthusiasm.  I had a great time, in other words.  Thanks, Julie!

I also want to say that each of the other presenters were really terrific.  Rob Hale was so good in demonstrating the Observer Pattern that there's a good chance he'll be doing a Pattern Series for us.  Paul Swider is so very knowledgeable about SharePoint. And Jon Limmer is a super presenter, who along with Tom Cooley, made me really appreciate DotNetNuke again.


[tags: VTDotNet, .NET, Community Server, Julie Lerman]

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Posted on 6/12/2006 9:02:00 PM by Dave Burke
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6/13/2006 12:39:40 AM Permalink

Wow - CS vs DNN is *exactly* the presentation a co-member and I are putting on at tomorrow night's User Group meeting!

That's a good point about the 'free vs commercial" aspects of CS. I'll have to touch on that.

Having Internet access at these meetings sure would help. I've put together a VPC running CS over Sql Server 2005 Express on XP Pro in order to have something to demonstrate. Other than that it's just screenshots.

mabster |

6/13/2006 5:52:53 AM Permalink

Thanks Dave. It's always nice to get mentioned in someone's blog. It's a little nicer when they get the name spelled right though. I've been called Tom Dooley all too many times because of that old song. But hey, at least you didn't call me Virginia this time.

Great job on the presentation last night. Your passion for CS truly comes out.

Tom Cooley |

6/13/2006 6:35:33 AM Permalink

Hey, Tom!  I was driving home thinking, "is is Cooley, or Dooley???"  But I figured that since you were one of the first guys I met at VTDotNet and considered a friend (since, what, 2002?) that my confidence in "Dooley" was unjustifiably high.  Sorry!  Corrected!  And don't worry, I'll be sure to address you as "Mr. Cooley" when I see you at the theatre.  Thanks for correcting me.

Mabster, it'll be a good show tonight.  I hope you blog about it.  I'll will interested to know if you come away as I did realizing how many things CS and DNN have in common, both architecturally and community-wise.  Sorry about the lack of Internet access.  Bummer.

daveburke |

6/13/2006 6:50:59 AM Permalink

Tom - I forgot about "Virginia"!  Thanks for the reminder and the laugh!

And, Great presentations guys!!  It is SO appreciated when people take time out of thier busy schedules to share their knowledge with the rest of us!!!!  I had to miss the last bit, and am seriously bummed about it.

Laura Blood |

6/13/2006 7:41:42 AM Permalink

Thanks, Laura.  Don't worry about missing the end of the show.  You and Neal caught the Community Server segment, so you got to see the most interesting topic. Smile

daveburke |

6/13/2006 12:52:28 PM Permalink

Dave - Thanks. I believe we have tickets for July 5th. Are you at that performance? I'll be watching for you.

Laura - Don't listen to Dave. You DID miss the best part of the presentation. But, like the Sharepoint presentation, I felt like we could have devoted a full 2 hour session to DNN. But since Dave could only find 40 minutes of material to cover in his alloted hour, I guess that may not be the case for Community Server, eh Dave. ;-}

Tom Cooley |

6/13/2006 1:08:04 PM Permalink

This battle of the portals is going to get ugly fast!

I don't think we have tickets this year, unfortunately.  When I found out that Huckleberry Finn wasn't being performed I was too bummed to pony up the money.

daveburke |

6/13/2006 3:25:54 PM Permalink

Dave, you wouldn't by chance have a slide deck for what you talked about would you.  The higher level discusison would be a good thing to review.

Rich Denis |

6/14/2006 1:41:53 PM Permalink

Hey, Rich! No slide deck for this one.  Just a review of cs.org.  The secret is that everything you see at communityserver.org is what Community Server IS!  I also demonstrated sites (like mine Smile that don't look like typical CS sites, showing how flexible the framework is.  Like I mentioned, it was important to demonstrate how CS was Open Source and what was free and what wasn't.  

daveburke |

6/14/2006 2:28:51 PM Permalink

Dave,  I'm very interested in comparing when to use CS in the corporate world.  We currently utilize SharePoint with many of our customers, but I'm interested in seeing a CS corporate "strategy" that we could utilize when making portal decisions.

Gary Farris |

6/14/2006 2:56:44 PM Permalink

Thanks Dave.  

Rich Denis |

6/14/2006 3:33:48 PM Permalink

Dave,

I was at the user group meeting on Tuesday. I work at a small office in South Burlington, VT. I've been using a Wordpress blog for documenting technical support calls at my office.

I installed CS this afternoon and I am very pleased with the capabilities; in fact, I am going to migrate all of my tech support call logs onto CommunityServer 2.0. I am also going to create a document repository using CS. Thanks for the information.

Nick

Nick J. Fessel |

6/14/2006 6:46:45 PM Permalink

Rich, thank YOU for the post earlier today on CS or Sharepoint.  That was very helpful.

Nick, you just made my manager very happy, and I'm even happier.  PLEASE say hello next meeting!  Let me know if you have any problems with CS.  Remember, the free (Express) version of CS maxes out at 50 files in the document repository.

daveburke |


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